Website Updates & Other News

Hi Everyone,

I made a few changes on the Freedom Motors website over the last couple of weeks.  Some of these changes were only cosmetic, but I also added a collection of brochures and whitepapers that can be downloaded in PDF format.  There is a “Documents” page under the “About Us” menu where you can download these new documents.

We published 4 new whitepapers on the website about the Rotapower engine that cover performance, emissions, reliability and manufacturability.  These short papers have a wealth of information about the Rotapower engine, its development history and technological advantages.  I’m including links to papers here:

In other news, some of you may have noticed that I published on Facebook a “sneak peak” photo of the biogas generator prototype that is being built by our partner in Canada (image below).  The generator is almost complete – they are waiting on a few final components before initial testing is started.  We plan is to install the generator at Cape Breton University where it will undergo rigorous testing in a laboratory setting.  This will give us many advantages as we can carefully control the fuel mix and closely monitor emissions as well.

Rotapower Biogas Generator Prototype

Dr. Paluru and I are traveling to India next week to meet with investor groups as well as government officials.  On this trip we are pursuing both investment funding and future high-volume manufacturing capability.  We will be back just before Christmas.

I took a couple photos this week of Dr. Moller and Dr. Paluru holding one of our latest model 530cc engines.  This 32 pound engine has a maximum output of 125 HP when running on ethanol.

Regards – Dave

29 thoughts on “Website Updates & Other News”

    1. The expectations are that Moller International will resume operations once Freedom Motors has been made successful. The Skycar and Neuera designs are completely dependent on FM being able to supply the required engine technology.

      1. Yes, but what about electric motors? Only two internal combustion engines should be needed with large enough horsepower of each to drive 2 more to 4 more electric motors; I assume using alternators to drive the electric motors; to simplify the design and reduce noise. Having listened to the skycar fly; I do not believe anyone wants to listen to it. Dr. Moller’s mufflers need to be used on the gas engines. You should tell everyone the torque of an electric motor is substantially more than a gas engine; allowing the electric motor to be lighter than an equivalent gas engine for equivalent thrust.

        1. “Having listened to the skycar fly; ”

          Have you listened to a drone?

          There is nothing quiet about 4 small props spinning at supersonic speeds no matter what the engine technology is.

          Have you noticed that that all electric demos and prototypes out there do not include an actual sound recording? There’s a very obvious reason for that. Only Dr Moller was brave enough to acknowledge this EXTREMELY loud elephant in the room.

        2. Hahaha, asking Moller to look at electric motors is like asking a burger joint to make chicken burgers only, while the owner of the burger joint also owns a cattle ranch with which he supplies the beef…
          Sure, they talk ‘hybrid’ at times, but that is just to make themselves sound ‘modern’. Where is your flying car you ask? Luckily there are hundreds of people out there working on your request. You no longer have to bank on Moller only. The path they are taking to flying cars is a long one through the success of Freedom Motors, who is yet to really start anything. A path they forced themselves onto because of a multitude of missteps and bad decisions.

        3. You lose a lot of energy when you convert from fuel to mechanical to electrical energy, so that kind of hybrid approach doesn’t work very well. You are correct that the prototype Skycar was very loud, but the production version the engines will be very quiet because they will be compound engines. The compound design removes 95% of the exhaust acoustical energy, so it would only need very minor muffling. One reason that Dr. Moller chose rotary engines for the Neuera and Skycar is that they respond very quickly. Because the rotor rotates 1/3 the speed of the drive shaft, the angular momentum is low and thus it can increase angular velocity of the drive shaft quickly in response to small increases in torque. Without that capability, the Neuera and Skycar could never have maintained stable hover in their maneuverability flights.

    2. I’ve been watching Dr. Moller ever since I first read about him in 1975 in both Popular Mechanics and Popular Science. Right at a time that a lot of his ideas and ground breaking work are being adopted / stolen from him without attribution by various world manufactures, the Sky Car appears shelved indefinitely. As they are all using electric motors, the range / run time is dreadfully poor. Would you get in an Air Taxi that has a maximum run time of 30 minutes? I understand that no money + gov bureaucrats = delays. It is very frustrating to see all these upstart ‘aircars’ or ‘hoverbikes’ supposedly going into production.

      1. The Skycar and Neuera designs have not been shelved indefinitely, but Moller is currently not working on the prototypes due to a lack of capital. Dr. Moller believes that many of these electric designs will eventually come around to a hybrid approach because of the range issues you point out.

    1. See my comment above. We expect to complete our Series A funding for Freedom Motors within the next 6 months, after which we plan to start producing production engines for the biogas market. We are currently working only on prototype engines with select business partners. Once Freedom Motors is operating with a positive cash flow we can being the process of restarting the R&D activities of Moller International.

      1. Mr. Sastry – it is apparent that FM is moving along at a pace far beyond what Miller International did ven at the beginning. I was an early, albeit small, investor with MLER (6,000 shares) and am still hopeful for an eventual viable M400-type vehicle. As a former helicopter pilot (~7,000 hours) I believe an M400-type vehicle is the answer to our future transportation needs. Technological challenges aside, it seems that the Team assembles at FM is somewhat superior to any prior Team working at MI. Is there any consideration of cross-fertilization across the MI and FM Teams once FM productions begin? I for one, look forward to seeing a tryout viable personal VTOL brought to market.

          1. Dave: just to be clear, my statement on the financial relationship between FM and MI refers to a conversation I had with Mr. Moller a few years back. Because no financial news via annual reports have been forthcoming for reasons we all may or may not know, l think it would be good for shareholders, whether MI or FM, to be informed of the current ownership. Whether you are the person to answer that question, l couldn’t say at the moment, but l do think it is an appropriate question. If not, you can tell me.

    2. To: Michael bonacci

      Financially speaking, unless the relationship has changed between FM and MI, MI owns at least 30% of FM. I believe that statement is correct but do not quote me. So as FM increases in value so does that 30%. And to that extent without considering any other financial factors, positive or negative, MI will share in FM’ success to the tune of 30%.

        1. Re: statement on financial arrangement between MI and FM

          Dave: forgot to comment. Because of time, my memory may be faulty but that is how I remember the conversation.

        2. Dave: one last comment and I will go away. I don’t want to walk away from the conversation leaving the impression l was being argumentative. If I am mistaken then I am mistaken.

          And thank you for all the blog updates you provide. It is helpful to be informed of the progress.

          1. Hi Keith, no I understand perfectly and don’t feel like you are badgering me – I’m more than happy to answer the questions I can. I’m not 100% on top of blog comments, but I will get to them eventually.

            To answer your question on ownership, Dr. Moller is still the majority shareholder of both Freedom Motors and Moller International. Neither company owns stock in the other, all shareholders are individuals. As far as I know, the only owned shares, for either company, are common stock. The Freedom Motors board had originally approved 20 million shares of preferred stock and 50 million shares of common stock. Currently there is a little over 40 million shares of Freedom Motors stock outstanding, about 53% owned by Dr. Moller. The rest are in the hands of outside shareholders. MLER stock is of course being traded publicly on OTC Pink, I think approximately 100 million outstanding shares, of which Dr. Moller owns a controlling portion of more than 58 million shares.

        1. Hey Randy,

          FM would pay a royalty of 5% on net revenues when selling a new engine product line, and after 5 years the royalty falls to 2%. Also, if FM licenses the engines to another producer, FM would pay a 30% sublicense fee to MI.

          In addition, FM currently owes MI close to $3 million USD, which is another way MI will benefit from the success of FM.

  1. As a shareholder in freedom motors, moller international, MLER thanks for trying to get this company out of the dumpster. I invested here for the eventual flying car can you give us any info on plans going forward with the flying car? Thanks Billy

      1. Hi David

        Seems there’s no love the the humble engine these days. I think it’s a great round of news and I can’t wait to see the results of the testing.

        Although I love the idea of the flying car, it’s the engine I’m really waiting for. Simple, light weight, and reliable; it’s the perfect trifecta for a sailor. Can’t wait till I can bring one onboard.

        Best of luck in India

  2. David, are you or the Dr of Indan dissent? If so how close? I for one am VERY excite with the move away from China and all it’s issues. Im kinda of a fan of India … I wish there was a “like” button for posts here, very optimistic about what’s going on at FM and how “our” technology fits of the world

    1. Randy,

      Good catch, Yes I am originally from India but have been in this country for more than two decades. My only career here is with the US Government. Yes, David is also half Indian as his father migrated from India in the 1960’s.

      We like India too, but for more economic reasons. It is the only country in the World today that has a double digit GDP for the past 5 years. They have signed the Paris Convention so they look forward to aggressive mitigation of global warming.

      India is also a great opportunity for Freedom Motors for its consumer capacity. Most of the US companies are now established their Asian HQs in India and hopefully this will give us multiple opportunities.

      I don’t have much of a family there in India as most of us have migrated and settled in the USA. But, I do have several friends who are successful and now willing to help us hit the ground.

      Good luck to all of us!

      Sincerely,
      Subhash

      1. I am guessing you have seen the FM motor powered scooter? Not to get ahead of our selves but I know they use a lot of dirty burning motors and just starting a “India built” scooter would do a lot to clean up the air there, and would bring more industry “Home”

        1. Yes, we have driven the prototype scooter around the parking lot. We like to allow visitors to test drive the stock scooter and the Rotapower scooter so they can get a feel for the difference. We are still hoping to complete the scooter contract with A-Life Automobile, but they still working to resolve their financial issues.

          The scooter market is huge in India and across APAC, and there are some licensing advantages to building an engine with a 49cc or 50cc displacement as well. If run on ethanol, harmful emissions would be far reduced for these scooters. The only issue is volume production of the Rotapower engine, which must be implemented in order to meet the volume and cost requirements to compete in these markets.

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